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 12-03-2005, 20:41 Post: 120329
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I picked up some 2006 brochures the other day at the Toyota dealer. One thing I found interesting was that a 5 speed automatic transmission gets better gas mileage than the 6 speed manual. I asked the service tech and they said "it's all computer controled to get the best mileage." I find that hard to believe. There is always slippage in an automatic due to nature of the fluid drive, or so I thought, as opposed to the engine being in direct contact with the drive train in the manual. The difference was 1 mpg better in both city and highway stats. If anyone can enlighten me on the new automatics it would be appreciated. I love my stick and this seems like one more thing "The Man" is going to take away.






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 12-05-2005, 08:19 Post: 120414
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What all you guys say makes a lot of sense. I was unaware of lockup torque converters but I'm old school. My assumption was that the EPA test may not take into account the operators abilities. Oh well, I have to get my '92 Pickup to 250,000 mls. before I start thinking about something new.






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Actually Ann, if you know at what rpm your engine produces the max. torque, that is the sweet spot for fuel economy. For my truck it's 2800 rpms, slightly under 65 mph.






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Mr. Thompson,

These specs are on the Tacoma. Manual transmissions are only offered certain on packages so I'll copy from what's in the broucher. All specs are (city/hwy)

2.4 liter 4 cyl.
2wd:
man - 20/27
auto - 21/26

4.0 liter V6
2wd:
man - 16/21
auto - 18/22
4wd:
man - 16/20
auto - 17/21

All,

Reading from all your experiences, I stick with stick. My wifes '91, auto 4-Runner exhibits those same hunt and peck tendances that leave me saying, "Just let me do it".






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